X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13513546163.17.ALDERSON@m...> References: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:38:05 +0100 To: elfling@egroups.com From: BP Jonsson Cc: elfling@egroups.com List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: Reply-To: elfling@egroups.com Subject: Re: Tengwar modes for various languages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 18:06 -0800 6.1.2000, Rich Alderson wrote: > >Estonian does not have a voicing contrast in obstruents, but rather a contrast >of lax/tense/(tense) geminate. > >The data was presented to me in my very first phonetics course in 1973, by the >well-known phoneticist/phonetician, and native Estonian speaker, Ilse Lehiste. However the lax obstruents are, or at least may be, voiced when standing between two voiced sounds (VCV and NCV). I've seen it myself on sonagrams of words spoken by a native speaker. There is admittedly a slight possibility that this native speaker was influenced by Swedish, since she had lived here for 40+ years. /BP B.Philip Jonsson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ Anant' avanaute quettalmar! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ___ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Melarocco\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine__ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ I neer Pityancalimeo\ \_____/ /ar/ /_atar Mercasso naan ~~~~~~~~~Cuinondil~~~\_______/~~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda cuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)