Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:44:40 +0200 From: Claude Heyman To: Elfing Message-id: <000a01bf5c85$7355ecc0$d148ef9b@Valyamar X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.207 X-Priority: 3 List-Help:

List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive: Reply-To: elfling@egroups.com Subject: Suggestion a year back still suggesting it now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sdYxLWv03BuuzwLsXD9d+g)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Boundary_(ID_sdYxLWv03BuuzwLsXD9d+g) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello! Could I perhaps be so historic as to recall this from the A= rchives? I do not want to incriminate Helge with laziness....HEAVENS NO!= !!!!!!!!!! but I would like to throw open this for discussion and possible= project forming. If such a project can be finished it can be put on Ardalambion = or I would be = MORE than happy to host it myself = Cla= ude On the archive: (Jan 16, 1999) Jerry Caveney makes a humble suggestion: (appended by me - So DO I!!!) > Namely, would it be possible for you, and/or other of the most learned > in Tolkien's Elven languages, to create an outline or some other form of > presenting the various linguistic rules that seem to apply in the > development of words in mature Quenya and Sindarin from Proto-Elvish > (represented primarily by the Etymology roots)? If such a work were to > be put on Ardalambion, I think it would be very beneficial to all > interested in the languages. Of course it would. A description of various sound-changes is one of the things I want to add to my page sooner or later. I envision an article starting with the sounds of Primitive Quendian, and then you can click on one link if you want to go to Common Eldarin, or on another if you want to go to Avarin. If you go to Common Eldarin, you can go from there to Old Quenya, Common Lindarin or Nandorin. From Common Lindarin you can go to Amanya Telerin or to Old Sindarin. From Old Sindarin you can go to Doriathrin or to Sindarin. In each case, the relevant sound-changes would be listed, so that you could trace the linguistic evolution through the ages, and into various branches of the Elvish language family. This, however, would be a big project. I think I could manage the fairly straightforward evolution from Primitive Quendian to Quenya, but David is the only one who really understands the details of the quite complex processes that produce Classical Sindarin - umlauts and assimilations and de-palatalizations and Eru knows what. - Helge Fauskanger --Boundary_(ID_sdYxLWv03BuuzwLsXD9d+g) Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

= = Hello! Could I perhaps be so historic as to recall this from the = Archives?

= I do = not want to incriminate Helge with laziness....HEAVENS = NO!!!!!!!!!!!

= but I would like to throw open this for discussion and = possible project forming.

= If such a project can be finished it can be put on = Ardalambion or I would be

= MORE than happy to host it = myself

=

= = = = = = = = = Claude

= On the archive: (Jan 16, 1999)

Jerry Caveney makes a humble suggestion:&n= bsp; = (appended by me - So DO I!!!)

> Namely, would it be possible for = you, = and/or other of the most learned
> in Tolkien's Elven languages, to c= reate = an outline or some other form of
> presenting the various linguistic = rules = that seem to apply in the
> development of words in mature Quenya and= = Sindarin from Proto-Elvish
> (represented primarily by the Etymology = roots)? If such a work were to
> be put on Ardalambion, I think= it = would be very beneficial to all
> interested in the languages.
Of = course it would. A description of various sound-changes is one of the
th= ings = I want to add to my page sooner or later. I envision an article
starting= with = the sounds of Primitive Quendian, and then you can click on
one link if = you = want to go to Common Eldarin, or on another if you want to
go to Avarin.= If = you go to Common Eldarin, you can go from there to Old
Quenya, Common = Lindarin or Nandorin. From Common Lindarin you can go to
Amanya Telerin = or to = Old Sindarin. From Old Sindarin you can go to
Doriathrin or to Sindarin.= In = each case, the relevant sound-changes would
be listed, so that you could= = trace the linguistic evolution through the
ages, and into various branch= es of = the Elvish language family.

This, however, would be a big project. I= = think I could manage the fairly
straightforward evolution from Primitive= = Quendian to Quenya, but David is
the only one who really understands the= = details of the quite complex
processes that produce Classical Sindarin -= = umlauts and assimilations and
de-palatalizations and Eru knows what.
=
- = Helge Fauskanger

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